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Thursday, September 06, 2007

A Short Critique of Positivism

In the blog of 9/04/07, I discussed a brief history of positivism. I show that its focus is on sensual data. Thus, it rejects metaphysics. Positivism developed empiricism, which developed a major debate with rationalists such as Descartes and Leibniz. To solve this debate, Kant’s worked on transcendent reasoning by using Aristotle’s categories. But his transcendentalism was not accepted.

The debate was reopened in the 1920s when many Western world linguists concluded that sensual data are primarily symbolic. By this time physical scientists had developed many physical laws. These laws use six primary symbols (charge, temperature, mass, length time and angle) and secondary symbols such as ‘density.’ The meanings of all of these symbols are precise and thus work together to expose new physical laws. However, these symbols are not working together in the infinitely small (free atoms) and the infinitely large (cosmology).

Since the life scientists have not been able to build their own symbols and laws, they expect physical scientists to produce living things from nonliving things. So, life scientists are using physical symbols to build life sciences such as sociology, psychology, neurology, etc. However, these life scientists are not solving medical problems such as cancer, diabetes, autism, and muscular dystrophy and human problems such as crime, child molestation, drug use, and poverty. Further, physical scientists have tried, but have never produced life from nonliving physical matter.

I say that something is wrong with positivism and the sciences that it is creating. At this time followers of Abraham, Moses, Plato, Nicholas of Cusa, Gottfried Leibniz, Friedrich Hegel, Georg Cantor, and me will say that reasoning goes beyond logic and thus that the origin of all finite things is an infinite God. From these followers, you can thus expect a debate against positivism.

Today, many physicists say that origin of all finite things is not God. Instead, they say that Big Bang is the origin of all finite things. However, the Big Bang is a finite thing. Essentially, these physicists are saying that ‘a‘finite thing is the origin of all finite things.’ This saying is illogical. Something is wrong with positivism.

9 Comments:

  • At 11:18 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    First you write: "(...) reasoning goes beyond logic". In the very next paragraph you write "(...) these physicists are saying that ‘a‘finite thing is the origin of all finite things.’ This saying is illogical. Something is wrong with positivism."

    So if your reasoning goed beyond logic it's fine, but if positivist reasoning allegedly goes beyond logic "something is wrong with positivism".

    Those are double standards, Mr. Shollenberger!

     
  • At 11:24 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    You wrote: "(...) that reasoning goes beyond logic and thus that the origin of all finite things is an infinite God."

    Do you recognize the non-sequitur? The problem is the word 'thus'. Basically you are saying that the origin of all finite things is an infinite God BECAUSE reasoning goes beyond logic. Do you see that there is no causal relationship between the two statements? I know you suffer from cognitive inabilities, but you should be able to at least recognize this logical mistake.

     
  • At 11:43 AM, Blogger George Shollenberger said…

    response to William Herkowitz,

    If a positivist says, 'a finite thing is the origin of all finite things,' the positivist is simply saying an illogical statement. I am not saying that positivists cannot go beyond logic.

    If one goes beyond logic, one is going into a different line of reasoning. For instance, if one uses 'both/and' reasoning, a line of reasoning different from 'either/or' reasoning is being used.

     
  • At 3:38 PM, Blogger George Shollenberger said…

    Response to Anne-Marie Dreyfus,

    I see the point you are making. I must think about this statement because I have a habit of assuming that our symbolic languages are highly flawed and that people must read between the lins sometimes until a flaw is corrected.

    The meaning of the symbol 'thus' might be flawed. For instance, if I change the symbol 'God' to the symbol 'thing,' do you still say that the statement contains a non sequitur?

    As an electrical engineer, who used sample data systems and mathematical analysis with imaginary numbers and who helped the electronic industry switch from analog to digital,I never heard of the symbol 'sequitur' but used its meaning with if/then statements.

     
  • At 2:04 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    There is nothing wrong with the meaning of the word "thus". The problem is that you used this word incorrectly.

    Let's see why. You made two statements:
    1. reasoning goes beyond logic
    2. the origin of all finite things is an infinite God.

    By using the word "thus" you implied that statement 2 follows logically from statement 1. Do you see that such is not true? And that statement 2 would still be a non-sequitur if you replace "God" with "thing"? Or with any other word, for that matter?

    Incidentally, the word is "non-sequitur", not "sequitur". And the if-then construct is used in computer science, not in philosophy and logic.

     
  • At 2:29 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Consider the two following statements:
    1. a finite thing is the origin of all finite things
    2. a finite thing is NOT the origin of all finite things

    Now, if I were to use either/or reasoning, only one of the two statements could be true. But instead I go beyond logic and use both/and reasoning. In this different line of reasoning both statements are true.

    So you are speaking like a real positivist when you claim that the statement "a finite thing is the origin of all finite things" is not true and illogical.

     
  • At 1:06 PM, Blogger George Shollenberger said…

    Response to Anne-Marie Dreyfus and William Herkowitz,

    I found the problem between logicians and me. I will discuss it in my next blog.

     
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