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Friday, January 15, 2010

Will the Partnership of Deism and Atheism Destroy the USA?

Today, the symbols theism, deism, and atheism cover all human life on the subjects of theology and religion. Theism means an active God. Deism means an inactive God. Atheism means that God does not exist. These meanings hide a truth because deists have similar beliefs as atheists have about the universe. I say that this hidden truth is slowly destroying the USA. My study of theism, deism, and atheism used two Amazon discussions. (click) (click) So, let me discuss this hidden truth in more detail.

Like theism, deism accepts the existence of a supreme being. But deism and theism view the supreme being differently. They are different because deism believes that the Supreme being created the universe and then stopped creating, as Jews would say, on the seventh day. On the other hand, theism says that the supreme being is always active in many ways.

Since the supreme being is inactive, the believers in deism say that the universe ends. Here we find some of today's godless materialists. The other godless materialists of today are atheists who do not believe in a supreme being, and thus believe that the universe must end.

When a person believes that the universe has an end and theists believe that the universe has no end, two different cultures will develop in any nation. In the USA today, we are experiencing these two very different cultures. I believe that these two different cultures can be identified today as 'liberal' and 'conservative.' I also believe that this dualistic culture began in 1967 when the U.S. Supreme Court ruled to remove prayers from school. This ruling increased the growth of atheism and the development of a partnership between deism and atheism in all sciences that believe that the universe ends.

I say that this partnership is destroying the USA.

posted by George Shollenberger @ 11:04 PM  

11 Comments:

  • At 12:24 AM, Anonymous One Deist said…

    Admittedly, most of the founders had their principles borne in various Christian faiths, but their compass in creating this republic was pointing directly at secular law, not the mythology of antiquated religions. Our great nation was founded in an age of reason and common sense, and thankfully our country is definitely and definitively not a theocracy - Christian or otherwise. We are free to follow our own compass. Yours is not the only way under the sun, and you are not granted permission to commandeer our nation. There are tremendous numbers of other people of various faiths (including various denominations in your own religion) doing great things in this country and around the world. One of the primary goals in the formation of our country was to avoid fiscal and spiritual domination by any one particular religion.

    Truth be told, this country could use a lot more common sense and a fair bit less religious zealotry. Atheists, Deists, Hindus, Buddhists, Christians, Muslims - et cetera ad infinitum - are all overwhelmingly good people with strong ethical and moral compasses. In what way do good people with good character harm our nation?

    Deist

     

  • At 12:03 PM, Blogger George Shollenberger said…

    Response to One Deist,

    I notice that you did not use the religion 'judaism' in your example. I assume that this missing example is because many Jews are deists, who reject Christians and Muslims.

    It seems that you are rejecting the Declaration of Independence and its first two paragraphs. Have you read these two paragraphs? These words do not mention any religions as every citizen can see. But these words do speak of God, the God of theism, which is a theology. The other two theologies are deism and atheism.

    As a deist, you are promoting a theology that is not authorized in the USA. Neither is atheism authorized inn the USA. The Declaration of Independence is clear on the subject of theology, whinh means the study of God. The U.S. Constitution is also clear on the subject of religion, in that, no religion can be established. So our founders created excellent founding documents, which are the highest laws of the land.

    As seen, I am promoting the only authorized theology in the USA. But you are promoting a theology that is not authorized in the USA.

    Thanks for your comment. But I cannot agree with you, otherwise I would be violating law.

    George

     

  • At 4:57 PM, Anonymous One Deist said…

    Authorized? Theology? Oh my.

    I had reviewed some of your site prior to leaving my comment, and was concerned by your "unusual perspective" on several topics. Evidently my concerns were well founded, but just to be sure I understand you correctly: You're saying that the creation of our nation was not principled on breaking the bonds of kings and churches, but indeed to lawfully impose a sole "authorized" religion.

    You mention the Declaration of Independence. A document intended to break us free from unfair taxation, the king of England, fiscal responsibility to the Anglican Church, and to proclaim our sovereignty. A document primarily authored by Thomas Jefferson, who held primarily Deistic views, and who wrote -

    "... to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them... We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

    The "Laws of Nature and Nature's God" directly alluding to the principles of Deism to which Jefferson ascribed himself. It is painfully obvious, the omission of the words "Bible God" or "Christian God" or "Jewish God".

    "... endowed by their Creator ... unalienable Rights ... Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." Given by each individual's God (not just your God, sir), to live, to be free, and even to be happy. Do you think everyone would be free and happy if they were forced to worship only your God? Would you be free and happy if someone told you that their interpretation of the founding documents were more toward a Muslim God?

    My non-use of Judaism in my previous post was completely incidental. I might well have said Zoroastrianism, Bahá'í Faith, Buddhism, Sikhism, Shintoism [which is where this comes in] >> et cetera ad infinitum <<. I will say, though, it is interesting that Judaism is the only one you were concerned about, to the exclusion of all others.

    We may be completely polar opposites in our view of our Universe and our God. But I sincerely wish you the very best, sir, in your life and your faith.

    Deist

     

  • At 5:36 PM, Anonymous One Deist said…

    I don't normally do this, but I'd like to jump right back in with another response to your post.

    You say, concerning the Declaration of Independence:
    "these words do speak of God, the God of theism"
    Your statement is an opinion and an assumption. Also, I propose it is flawed, both in interpretation, and of intent, of the founding document.

    You also say:
    "The U.S. Constitution [states] no religion can be established"
    and then:
    "I am promoting the only authorized theology in the USA"
    These statements are a contradiction. Also, there is no "authorized theology".

    You say:
    "I cannot agree with you, otherwise I would be violating law."
    This statement, too, is flawed. There is no law prescribing any theology.

    Deist

     

  • At 10:19 PM, Blogger George Shollenberger said…

    Response to One Deist,

    You say: You're saying that the creation of our nation was not principled on breaking the bonds of kings and churches, but indeed to lawfully impose a sole "authorized" religion.

    George: No where do I say that the laws of the USA will impose a sole 'authorized' religion.

    You say: The Declaration of Independence is a document intended to break us free from unfair taxation, the king of England, fiscal responsibility to the Anglican Church, and to proclaim our sovereignty. A document primarily authored by Thomas Jefferson, who held primarily Deistic views, and who wrote -

    George; Jefferson only drafted the Declaration. It was shanged considerbly by Ben Franklin and John Adams. A critical change was the words,'one People.' This change calls for the development of one culture in the USA. The phrase in the Declaration, "Laws of Nnature and Nature's God," is a theistic phrase. Deism seeks 'laws of nature' and man-made morals. Theism seeks laws of nature and God's morals.

    You say: "... to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them... We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

    You also say: The "Laws of Nature and Nature's God" directly alluding to the principles of Deism to which Jefferson ascribed himself. It is painfully obvious, the omission of the words "Bible God" or "Christian God" or "Jewish God".

    George: You are lifting Jefferson up as if he was the sole founder of the USA. As I said above, the 'Laws of Nature and Nature's God' apply to theism, an active God. Theism is a specific theory og God and has nothing to do with a Bible God, a Christian God or a Jewish God.

    You say:"... endowed by their Creator ... unalienable Rights ... Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." Given by each individual's God (not just your God, sir), to live, to be free, and even to be happy. Do you think everyone would be free and happy if they were forced to worship only your God? Would you be free and happy if someone told you that their interpretation of the founding documents were more toward a Muslim God?

    George: If one has a God, that person has chosen a specific theology and worship that theology. My theology is a monotheistic God. As a researcher, I am developing new attributes of a monotheistic God that are consistent and do not belong to any relogion although I do research on religions.

    You say: My non-use of Judaism in my previous post was completely incidental. I might well have said Zoroastrianism, Bahá'í Faith, Buddhism, Sikhism, Shintoism [which is where this comes in] >> et cetera ad infinitum <<. I will say, though, it is interesting that Judaism is the only one you were concerned about, to the exclusion of all others.

    George: I do not lift one religion above another. Since I say that scriotures are man-made, I notice that some scriptures are more modern than others and that some seem to be political rather than scientific.

    You say: We may be completely polar opposites in our view of our Universe and our God. But I sincerely wish you the very best, sir, in your life and your faith.

    George: I conclude that our polar opposites are producing two distinct cultures. Two or more culturesa is opposed to counter to the 'one People' words in the Declaration. I do not believe that two or more cultures can coexist because theism and deism, for instance, are excluded middle opposites.

    Thanks for your comment.

    George

     

  • At 11:08 PM, Blogger George Shollenberger said…

    Response to One Deist,

    Concerning the Declaration of Independence, I did say "these words do speak of God, the God of theism"

    In response you say, “Your statement is an opinion and an assumption. Also, I propose it is flawed, both in interpretation, and of intent, of the founding document.”

    George response: My statement is an opinion. But it is not an assumption because my opinion was presented in this blog. But could you go in more detail with respect to the flaws of my opinion?

    I did say that I am promoting the only authorized theology in the USA.

    You say, “These statements are a contradiction. Also, there is no "authorized theology"

    George response: The Declaration of Independence has many authorizations of a theology in the first two paragraphs. Note. Theology means the study of God whereas religion is the practice of a specific theology. The theory of God is a theology. The theory of God is not a practice of a religion. The founders included statements about their theory of God. Their theories of God are found in the first two paragraphs of the Declaration. These statements are authorities and makes the Declaration of Independence a law of the USA.,

    I did say, "I cannot agree with you, otherwise I would be violating law."

    You say: ‘This statement, too, is flawed. There is no law prescribing any theology.

    George response: I disagree with your statements, as my words show in the two paragraph of the Declaration.
    These two paragraphs are the opening words of a theology that will apply to all people of the USA.

    Thanks again for your comment.

    George

     

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  • At 9:11 AM, Anonymous Levi Loewenstein said…

    I just read what a guy who calls himself Dolby Bask wrote about you on those amazon discussion boards you mention. If he is telling the truth you are in deep trouble.

     

  • At 10:09 AM, Blogger George Shollenberger said…

    Anonymous,

    One purpose of my worl is to help students novercome the the wrong education of today's colleges and universities.

    George

     

  • At 10:13 AM, Blogger George Shollenberger said…

    Response to Levi Loewensten,

    Thanks for the information on Dauby's post. He seems to have a major problem in interpreting my work.

    George

     

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